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Panundra

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This is one case and one person of a history of police violence and killings. People are tired of it. We can see that by the mass turn outs across the world. Not just here in the US. People are standing up around the world right now. If there was not an issue no one would stand up. If we are going to see change this is how it happens. Police are paid by tax money to serve and protect the public. When did the right to choose who deserves the death penalty get added to the list of duty? The use of deadly force should not be part of the job. No one person should have the authority to kill another person. That should be decided in a court of law by a group of peers.

If we are being judged by our past, he that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone.
 

Redfish

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This is an FYI (For y’all info) On Galveston Island Texas Back in the 80s there used to be a get together for the gay/transgender/Bi and what ever else for a long weekend, they used to call it Splash Day. There never was any shootings that I can remember and you could get to the store and get around if needed and they never trashed out the island. The big thing lately is the Lone Star Rally where Galveston hosts a long weekend for motorcycle riders and in a four day weekend the number usually surpasses Sturgis by a fair number. During the Rally you can kind of get around and I can not remember any shootings and the island was never left in a trash heap. In between these two get togethers at SurfSide Texas they decided to host what was called KAPPA Weekend where the Black/Afro Americans would show up for a Saturday/Sunday get together. Each year it got bigger and bigger and there were more and more all out brawls and many many gunfights and the trash was left for all others to clean. A couple years ago there was a terrible set of events and a few deaths and the behavior was getting to be to much for the locals when these people coming for the couple of days started to destroy property, gun fights, harassment of the locals, and public property turned into a big open toilet! Surf Side cancelled KAPPA weekend. This weekend they changed the name and brought it to Galveston Island!!! Locals were unable to leave their homes, you could not drive anywhere because the two main roads were either closed or it was just a parking lot where no vehicles were moving. The trash and damage was great and there were three gun fights on the SeaWall ( a Main Street on Galveston Island) that I know of and many many fights. Call after call after call all night long, shooting after shooting after shooting, multiple GSWs were treated, and there was much much more that happened and tons of trash left behind. An officer did state that last night was the absolute craziest night he had ever worked in his lifetime in law enforcement. There were many thanks to surrounding departments and swat teams that were here to help with the mess!!! Take this how ever you want but once again this will be the last weekend that KAPPA/ what ever they named it this time will ever be held on Galveston Island!!!! This type of behavior was not and is not because of the riots, this behavior has been demonstrated many times before from the same group!!! and has not changed in years. This is just one picture of the seawall last night on Galveston Island. 2165C4FD-B018-46EA-B865-E694FB0D6BC1.jpeg
 

Panundra

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Yes I edited this post, I will leave and leave this here. There were no riots, looting or assaults for these two. No days on end of national news coverage 24/7. Not a peep from the main stream media.

I understand what you’re trying to say.
We all know there are bad people that do horrific things. That is extremely sad and I could not imagine what that couple had to go through during their last hours on this earth. Thinking about it makes me sick.
What happened to the men and woman that committed this crime?
If we want to go back into history and look at every murder that’s taken place from criminals and how the ones who committed those crimes were prosecuted it’s going to be a long week.
If that couple had been killed by a group of police officers would it have been national news? Would there have been protests and riots?
Police officers are held to a code of ethics.
The Code of Ethics stands as a preface to the mission and commitment law enforcement agencies make to the public they serve.
The lines have become blurred for some that serve. People seem to be tired of it. Change happens when people rise up and get loud.
 

Panundra

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I saw that. It’s going to be interesting to see how this looks moving forward. More cities will change the way they provide these services. What that looks like time will tell.
 

Redfish

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I saw that. It’s going to be interesting to see how this looks moving forward. More cities will change the way they provide these services. What that looks like time will tell.
I saw today that with cutting the budget of 100 million and taking another 150 mil from other departments and in doing so they say they are going to give this money to minority businesses but I do not know how that is suppose to help with the arrests of criminals and not using force??? The budget cuts alone are going to see many officers quit plus support staff and administration staff will leave also. These will be the people in the PD that have worked there their whole life and they were due for raises but now won’t get them. The leaving of all these people will result in less officers handling the same amount of calls which will lead to more stress in their lives!! These liberals are now applying a blanket policy because of the actions of a few!!! They need to look at training and the supervisors and how to relieve stress and if people get arrested the DAs need to prosecute instead of cutting these criminals lose!! The revolving door needs to be fixed!!
 

Rocky

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I saw today that with cutting the budget of 100 million and taking another 150 mil from other departments and in doing so they say they are going to give this money to minority businesses but I do not know how that is suppose to help with the arrests of criminals and not using force??? The budget cuts alone are going to see many officers quit plus support staff and administration staff will leave also. These will be the people in the PD that have worked there their whole life and they were due for raises but now won’t get them. The leaving of all these people will result in less officers handling the same amount of calls which will lead to more stress in their lives!! These liberals are now applying a blanket policy because of the actions of a few!!! They need to look at training and the supervisors and how to relieve stress and if people get arrested the DAs need to prosecute instead of cutting these criminals lose!! The revolving door needs to be fixed!!
Exactly, I’ve been hearing that some departments have officers retiring or leaving because of this recent BS! In the end this will hurt everyone and the criminals will get stronger in numbers as will these antifa pussy groups! The liberal left want more of a sociologist government everything free but own the people! Best to be ready then not! Had a car in a neighborhood pull up with masked thugs go right up and steel shit in broad daylight with no fear!
 

Panundra

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I saw today that with cutting the budget of 100 million and taking another 150 mil from other departments and in doing so they say they are going to give this money to minority businesses but I do not know how that is suppose to help with the arrests of criminals and not using force??? The budget cuts alone are going to see many officers quit plus support staff and administration staff will leave also. These will be the people in the PD that have worked there their whole life and they were due for raises but now won’t get them. The leaving of all these people will result in less officers handling the same amount of calls which will lead to more stress in their lives!! These liberals are now applying a blanket policy because of the actions of a few!!! They need to look at training and the supervisors and how to relieve stress and if people get arrested the DAs need to prosecute instead of cutting these criminals lose!! The revolving door needs to be fixed!!
Change can be hard. I think you’re right with the training and supervisors. How do we spread the load out. If you look at the healthcare system we have some doctors who are general practitioners, internal medicine, pediatric, surgeons and so on. It use to not be like that. One doctor for everyone.
Police officers can currently respond to all public safety calls. They might be on traffic, respond to a domestic dispute, then a gang or drug the next. Then called to help control a riot. Some folks who are currently involved in the system are well trained and excellent at what they do. Keep them where they are.
We could also have people trained for more areas of “specialty” services. This would take a lot off everyone’s plates. People trained to be dispatched for domestic calls (social workers), mental health calls (phycologists), traffic and vehicle accidents (medic), task forces (gang, riot, drug etc.)
If these groups are specially trained for these services then policing isn’t what it use to be. We have individuals who are trained to handle each of these situations. It’s a matter of implementing a new system to dispatch the right people to the right places.
It is going to be interesting to see how they decide to move forward.
 

Redfish

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^^^^ I do not know the answer but I know that can not work because it is a matter of time in most cases and having someone sitting around in an office waiting for a call clean across town forty minutes away just ain’t going to cut it. This has turned into a liberal agenda and they are lumping EVERY cop into a mold that only fits a few. The system works (for the most part) they just need to tweak it. Like I said this would have happened if Floyd would have been a white guy i’m afraid,, it was a dumb cop with a bad attitude trying to Impress two rookies. If that would have been the case I wonder if these Black support groups would have protested??? I also wonder why they aren’t protesting all the black shootings deaths in Chicago and Detroit every weekend??
 

Redfish

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Minneapolis states that they will defund their PD!! They want to rely on Social workers and teen reform!!! This is not reforming the PD it sounds like they want to reform people!! WTH are they talking about!!! They are not going to reform society!!! What social worker will they call when a bank is getting robbed or some crazy POS has a gun at his neighbors head??? What a bunch of complete idiots!!!! Defund the PD??? They are in the process of burying their city!!!!! It is not going to end well if this is followed thru!!! What a Joke!!!!
 

Panundra

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It’s not about one BAD COP. It is about an unjust system. A system that has continued to grow. That has continued to oppress for to long. Change is here. How we move forward now will shape us.
Change can be scary, it’s going to be ok. You aren’t going to loose anything. No one is asking you to bow down or saying you should be ashamed of your race.
All the departments you’ve mentioned would not be abolished. There is still going to be a criminal police force. Criminals aren’t going to be running the streets killing everyone. That is the fear put on by oppressors. Defunding the police as we know it and building a better system that works is a good thing. Police are asked to take all aspects of what’s bad in our society and try to fix it. They have become a catch all. That is not fair to them. There are people at the top of these systems that don’t want to see their millions of dollars in funding given to other resources. I get that.
There has to be a better way to do this. The current system is costing billions of dollars in settlements each year to the victims of police who have used excessive force.
Im tired of seeing the hate and division between party lines. I’m reading what you’re saying. This is not about what side of the aisle you’re on. This is about what side of humanity and justice you’re on.
I’m hopeful this will bring change and start a new chapter in America. Let’s continue to be the greatest nation on earth. Let’s continue to be forward thinking, innovative, open minded and open hearted.
There has to be a future for everyone who is here. America the land of opportunity. The land of the free the home of the brave. We are all American, we are all brothers and sisters. Let’s start acting like the family we are and stand up for one another.
Be brave.
 

Redfish

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You can not continue to have a PD in a city when the city wants to DEFUND!!! them!! Can’t believe this is even a point of discussion??
 

Panundra

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Decreasing the funding isn't going to cause all the police to go away. It’s going to cause them to re think how they operate. They’ll figure it out. I have faith in them. There are bright minds out there trying to navigate this.
 

Redfish

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The definition of Defunding. “prevent from continuing to receive funds“

I have a great mind??? So I’ll be over to defund your family and we can check back in with you in a six month period to see how y’all are doing on less funds!!! Meanwhile I will give your money to others and see if that helps y’all out in any significant way.:)

Like I said this is more liberal BS and I can not believe it is even a part of any discussion! LOL!!!!!!:)
 
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