Thinking about 6112's on an access or regular cab first gen? Think again.

Unless you only want one inch of lift...

Bilstein 6112 0-2" Front Lift Shocks & Coils kit for 2000-2006 Toyota Tundra 4WD

My question:

Why can't you get the full amount of lift for these coilovers on the access cab and regular cab models like you can on the double cab models? And would you be able to get the full 2.75 inches on an access cab or regular cab if you have upgraded upper control arms?

Bilsteinlifts.com answer:

You'll get full amount from middle notch because access cab is lighter

setting on higher clips will damage the suspension

My follow up:

But it says 0-1" on access cab. Are you saying you'll get 1" or 2" on that setting?

Their rebuttal:

In order to answer all your questions, we send you the installation instructions
Installation Instructions

My reply:

Again it just says not to exceed 1" on access cabs and my original question was "why not?" Surely there's a good reason.

Their reply:

same notch will give different lift depending on cab weight

My frustration:

Surely someone at Bilstein knows why a Bilstein product would be able to lift a double cab 2 inches no problem, but only 1 inch for an access cab.

"Exceeding 1 inch will damage the suspension on an access cab." Please elaborate on that. How exactly would setting the 6112 coilovers to anything more than 1 inch of lift on an access cab damage the suspension?
Are the OEM UCAs, LCAs and/or spindles different between the two models?
Is it because the OEM UCAs on an access cab will collide with the coils on bumps or turns? I have SPC adjustable UCAs and I would love to buy 6112s but not if they will only get 1 inch of lift on my truck. That won't even clear 33" tires. Other brand 2.5 diameter coilovers typically can go 2-3 inches on either model.

Their response:

TO say correctly:

same clip setting will lift differently depending on what cab you have
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My reply:

It's like we are looking at two different documents here. I see "do not use" on the top two settings on the access cab and again I just want to know why exactly in great detail. Please.

Their reply:

We wrote a letter to the manufacturers and asked them your question, we are waiting for an answer from them

They sent another email before I responded to the last:

can't tell for sure what version are you looking at, maybe it has been messed

please follow the official link


My reply:

I'm concerned that Bilstein doesn't know why a Bilstein 6112 can't go above the 1 inch setting on a first gen Toyota Tundra access cab. When Bilstein made the product and made the decision no recommend against going over 1 inch on this particular application. I just want to know why in great detail.
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Their reply:

We asked your question to the manufacturer, here is their answer
"All of our instructions are in place ensuring there is no component interference. Using them outside of the way it is stated will allow for suspension interference


At this point I gave up on getting a reply from someone with a brain who can turn a wrench. These correspondences took 5 days total. 2 days after is sked the question, another person asked the same. It remains unanswered and you can see my question was answered with nonsense.
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Bmf4069

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I had the same question. Same thing on the 5110. I can kinda see why on those, but not the 6112. I was thinking about them, but now I'm rethinking it. I mainly wanted them just for the matching rear shocks and I need new springs. I may just go with the whole OME kit and leave the AAL out and buy new rear leafs.
 
I had the same question. Same thing on the 5110. I can kinda see why on those, but not the 6112. I was thinking about them, but now I'm rethinking it. I mainly wanted them just for the matching rear shocks and I need new springs. I may just go with the whole OME kit and leave the AAL out and buy new rear leafs.
If you still need coilovers once I buy Kings, I'll sell you my toytec boss coilovers at a good price. Of course that'll probably not happen til Black Friday at the earliest.

I'm still thinking the 6112s would work fine at 2inch setting with aftermarket UCAs. But I guess we will never know.
 

Bmf4069

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I could try it. I'm getting a nice chunk of change back for taxes. Maybe having parts in hand we could see why they say that. All I'm after is level, new springs, and new leafs. New shocks are just a bonus.
 
I could try it. I'm getting a nice chunk of change back for taxes. Maybe having parts in hand we could see why they say that. All I'm after is level, new springs, and new leafs. New shocks are just a bonus.
Are your current shocks pretty new or something?

What leafs you want? I definitely want.to ditch the stock leafs eventually. Even with the progressive.aal swapped in without the overload , it's rough off road.
 

Bmf4069

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Are your current shocks pretty new or something?

What leafs you want? I definitely want.to ditch the stock leafs eventually. Even with the progressive.aal swapped in without the overload , it's rough off road.
They're newish. About 6 years old but only 20k on them. But they're monroes. Very spongy. For leafs I just want stock. Only reason I want new springs all around is I'm pretty sure they're factory and have 319k on them. But I dont want any lift in the rear. Just level. I dont wanna have to buy 33s to fill the wheel well.
 
But on the flip side of things, come to find out there's some FB tundra peeps running jacked up 6112s on ACs and said they haven't had any problems so fuck me right?
 
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